Nobel laureate Roger Penrose argues that Gödel’s incompleteness theorem blocks purely algorithmic machines from ever attaining true understanding. Real consciousness, he says, ignites only when the brain’s quantum wave-function undergoes objective reduction—an irreducibly non-computable collapse. Penrose separates classical reality you can ascertain from a quantum reality you can only confirm, one that even shows retro-causal effects in EPR entanglement experiments. Mistaking today’s impressive chatbots for minds, he warns, risks missing the far deeper physics linking quantum gravity and conscious thought. Sir Roger Penrose & This is World.

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